Comments on: Cannes Lions reaction to the 2009 Dubai Lynx http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx Design & Advertising Wed, 16 May 2012 21:25:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: The big idea vs the cliche’ « ANUBIS http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-4665 The big idea vs the cliche’ « ANUBIS Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:00:35 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-4665 [...] Cannes Lions reaction to the 2009 Dubai Lynx [...] [...] Cannes Lions reaction to the 2009 Dubai Lynx [...]

]]> By: jay http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1571 jay Thu, 21 May 2009 13:41:59 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1571 i wouldve thought it is pretty basic that advertising is done to sell products. awards are a rather irrelevant way of measuring advertising and how and if it works. and in case they do institute awards, the least they can do is make sure copied ads are not awarded. and agencies could do the same, seeing how irrelevant the awards are, except on the cv of some lunatics. i wouldve thought it is pretty basic that advertising is done to sell products. awards are a rather irrelevant way of measuring advertising and how and if it works. and in case they do institute awards, the least they can do is make sure copied ads are not awarded. and agencies could do the same, seeing how irrelevant the awards are, except on the cv of some lunatics.

]]> By: anubis http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1566 anubis Tue, 19 May 2009 21:29:56 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1566 Jason, you put up very interesting points of view. i agree with 95% of them and i am personally happy that this debate is taking place. I am also happy on your stand on plagiarism. please keep visiting and sharing your views. Jason, you put up very interesting points of view. i agree with 95% of them and i am personally happy that this debate is taking place. I am also happy on your stand on plagiarism. please keep visiting and sharing your views.

]]> By: Jason http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1564 Jason Tue, 19 May 2009 12:23:53 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1564 Anubis, i get where you are coming from, but that is not how it works all the time. At least not here in the U.S. If those are the standards a notable amount of entries into competitions as well as winners would be disqualified for every year competitions are held as far back as you can imagine. It is very common to create a campaign around an artists preconcieved work. The goal of an ad agency is to create a campaign that satisfies the clients need, not win awards, period! Awards, while they are nice to get and makes us happy, are really self masturbatory trinkets that sit on the mantle. This whole arguement seems a bit childish... Get off your high horses already. Advertising agencies are the producers of the print world. Who gets top billing in movie credits? The producers. Did they personally create all the artwork? No. Did they concieve the idea? No. Did they write the script? No. Did they do the acting? No, did they direct? No. Now I am 100% anti plagerism and if there are entries that were obviously ripped off then they definately should be disqualified. But that is not the case in our situation. Were my illustrations preconcived? Yes, so that disqualifies their use? They have never been used in an ad campaign before... Did I create the ad campaign? No, Fp7 did. Did i create the illustrations? Yes, but that is my job. You need to recognize what the job of an ad agency is... Anubis, i get where you are coming from, but that is not how it works all the time. At least not here in the U.S. If those are the standards a notable amount of entries into competitions as well as winners would be disqualified for every year competitions are held as far back as you can imagine. It is very common to create a campaign around an artists preconcieved work.

The goal of an ad agency is to create a campaign that satisfies the clients need, not win awards, period! Awards, while they are nice to get and makes us happy, are really self masturbatory trinkets that sit on the mantle. This whole arguement seems a bit childish… Get off your high horses already. Advertising agencies are the producers of the print world. Who gets top billing in movie credits? The producers. Did they personally create all the artwork? No. Did they concieve the idea? No. Did they write the script? No. Did they do the acting? No, did they direct? No.

Now I am 100% anti plagerism and if there are entries that were obviously ripped off then they definately should be disqualified.

But that is not the case in our situation.

Were my illustrations preconcived? Yes, so that disqualifies their use? They have never been used in an ad campaign before…

Did I create the ad campaign? No, Fp7 did.
Did i create the illustrations? Yes, but that is my job.
You need to recognize what the job of an ad agency is…

]]> By: Simon http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1563 Simon Tue, 19 May 2009 09:29:34 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1563 Jason, I agree with Louie. They've done the equivalent of going on shutterstock and purchasing a stock image. There's no internal creative involvement at FP7, so they don't deserve the credit. I hope you were well paid! Jason, I agree with Louie. They’ve done the equivalent of going on shutterstock and purchasing a stock image. There’s no internal creative involvement at FP7, so they don’t deserve the credit. I hope you were well paid!

]]> By: anubis http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1555 anubis Thu, 14 May 2009 18:58:12 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1555 jason, you should be proud of your work. we are all proud of your work and that is the heart of the problem...the fact that it is YOUR work and not that of FP7. You should be awarded for your work not anyone else. if they had commissioned you to create a specific new illustration for a real client they too would deserve the award but not like this. Creativity awards celebrate ideas and their executions for real clients NOT award the agencies for art-buying. NB. if i buy the same artwork (or a similar artwork) and enter it in next year Linx will i win or will i be accused of copycat? jason, you should be proud of your work. we are all proud of your work and that is the heart of the problem…the fact that it is YOUR work and not that of FP7. You should be awarded for your work not anyone else. if they had commissioned you to create a specific new illustration for a real client they too would deserve the award but not like this. Creativity awards celebrate ideas and their executions for real clients NOT award the agencies for art-buying.

NB. if i buy the same artwork (or a similar artwork) and enter it in next year Linx will i win or will i be accused of copycat?

]]> By: jason http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1536 jason Tue, 12 May 2009 21:07:16 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1536 Its a shame that my work is garnering such criticism. All I did was sell use to an ad agency. Something that is done thousands of times around the globe. How do photographers ever plan on making a living by these standards. I am truly grateful for FP7 to have wanted to use my work. Before this, no one really gave a damn... You should all be ashamed. Jason Freeny Its a shame that my work is garnering such criticism. All I did was sell use to an ad agency. Something that is done thousands of times around the globe. How do photographers ever plan on making a living by these standards. I am truly grateful for FP7 to have wanted to use my work. Before this, no one really gave a damn…

You should all be ashamed.

Jason Freeny

]]> By: And still a little bit more.... http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1516 And still a little bit more.... Tue, 12 May 2009 03:43:38 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1516 http://web.mac.com/moistproduction/flash/index.html Here's FP7 Dubai's outdoor Grand Prix winner. Oh wait, hang on, no... this is the website for Jason Freeny, a digital illustrator who lives in New York. See the resemblance? But of course, after all, FP7 Dubai entered the work with Jason Freeny as the "Art Director", "Typographer" & of course - "Illustrator". http://www.dubailynx.com/winners/2009/outdoor/win_1_1.htm http://www.dubailynx.com/winners/2009/print/win_2_1.htm Can someone tell me what exactly FP7 Dubai did? Source the image and slapped a logo on it? Nicely done boys. The outdoor Grand Prix was well deserved. As was the Print Gold. And finally I wonder if Brainobrain knows that "their" campaign is available for purchase on the net... http://www.gelaskins.com/artist.php?Artist=115 In fact I suggest you get a copy for your iPhone or macbook pro where you can create your next Grand Prix winner. :) http://web.mac.com/moistproduction/flash/index.html

Here’s FP7 Dubai’s outdoor Grand Prix winner. Oh wait, hang on, no… this is the website for Jason Freeny, a digital illustrator who lives in New York.

See the resemblance?

But of course, after all, FP7 Dubai entered the work with Jason Freeny as the “Art Director”, “Typographer” & of course – “Illustrator”.

http://www.dubailynx.com/winners/2009/outdoor/win_1_1.htm
http://www.dubailynx.com/winners/2009/print/win_2_1.htm

Can someone tell me what exactly FP7 Dubai did? Source the image and slapped a logo on it? Nicely done boys. The outdoor Grand Prix was well deserved. As was the Print Gold.

And finally I wonder if Brainobrain knows that “their” campaign is available for purchase on the net… http://www.gelaskins.com/artist.php?Artist=115

In fact I suggest you get a copy for your iPhone or macbook pro where you can create your next Grand Prix winner.

:)

]]> By: Shame http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1253 Shame Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:54:48 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1253 Any suspect Cannes (and other) winners WILL start to be called out this year. Be warned. There work will be posted on a blog set up for this, investigated, along with their names and 'scam hack asterisk' graphics making fun of them applied to the ads...to be passed around the net like that. Again, bee warned. Imagine being one of those creatives with a HUGE asterisk after your name or showing up every time your ad is posted. Any suspect Cannes (and other) winners WILL start to be called out this year.

Be warned.

There work will be posted on a blog set up for this, investigated, along with their names and ‘scam hack asterisk’ graphics making fun of them applied to the ads…to be passed around the net like that.

Again, bee warned. Imagine being one of those creatives with a HUGE asterisk after your name or showing up every time your ad is posted.

]]> By: Journalist and advertising copywriter in Abu Dhabi, near Dubai, UAE http://bloganubis.com/2009/03/19/cannes-lions-reaction-to-the-2009-dubai-lynx/comment-page-1/#comment-1133 Journalist and advertising copywriter in Abu Dhabi, near Dubai, UAE Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:40:37 +0000 http://bloganubis.com/?p=3098#comment-1133 [...] 2. Anubis visualises the Lions’ reaction to the fiasco [...] [...] 2. Anubis visualises the Lions’ reaction to the fiasco [...]

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